An Image Proposed to be John Taylor, Third President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, As Seen Through the Lens of Francis Henry Grice in ca1844.

The image on the right is cropped from the Grice Collection at the Library of Congress Daguerreotype #1382 (half-plate). [Unidentified man, half-length portrait, facing left] – color film copy transparency | Library of Congress (loc.gov) The image on the left is cropped from John Taylor seated in chair – John Taylor (Mormon) – Wikipedia.

A Francis Henry Grice Daguerreotype Proposed to be Francis Henry Grice

[Unidentified man with chin whiskers, half-length portrait, facing front, with arm resting on book] | Library of Congress (loc.gov) Only a few men in the Grice Collection of 27 men sport chain watch fobs: Augustus Conant and Francis Grice were among them. Ironically, it was the recognition of the identities of Augustus Conant and Betsey Kelsey by Jillian Pariseault that started the quest for the identities of the others. Did Augustus or Betsey trigger the shutter for the image above? Did Francis or Augustus borrow the fob from the other?

For the back story, please see: Francis Henry Grice’s Daguerrean Views – Rod’s Ramblings and Ruminations (genevanotes.com)

A Francis Henry Grice Daguerreotype Proposed to be William Orr Scannel (1801-1859)

Two images of William Orr Scannel? The left image is the proposed Daguerreotype of Joseph Smith, popularly known as the “Scannel Daguerreotype” of 2008. The image generated a public stir when it first came to light. Could e-mailed photo be that of LDS Prophet Joseph Smith? | KSL.com The image was donated in 1969 to The Church of Christ (RLDS) by a descendant (Grace Katherine Scannel Congden, 1893-1979) of William Orr Scannel. The image presented on the left is cropped from the published version and not flipped. The image on the right is Dag #1370 in the Library of Congress Grice Collection of Daguerreotypes. The quarter-plate format is one of only three in that format in the fifty-one image collection (the vast majority being in the smaller sixth or ninth plate formats). The image here is cropped from the original seen below and not flipped horizontally. [Unidentified man, head-and-shoulders portrait, facing front] – digital file from color film copy transparency after conservation | Library of Congress (loc.gov) Of course, the Scannel Daguerreotype on the left could be Joseph Smith. If so, the Grice version is of higher quality! The larger quarter-plate format of the right image might be considered more befitting a Prophet than a shoemaker. The visual tip-off for the quarter-plate format is the relative smallness of the “F Grice” debossed in the left lower corner.

William Clayton, Mormon Scribe, Journalist, Businessman, Musician, and Composer of “Come, Come Ye Saints” as Captured by Francis Henry Grice in a Ninth-Plate Daguerreotype Miniature in Nauvoo, Illinois, in the Summer of 1844; Also, an Image of William and His Wife Ruth in Sixth-Plate Format

The image on the left is William Clayton at age 55, and the center image is also William Clayton at age 66, both from William Clayton – Biography (josephsmithpapers.org). The image on the right (cropped but not flipped) is proposed to be William Clayton at age 30 from [Unidentified man, head-and-shoulders portrait, facing front] | Library of Congress (loc.gov). Please note the ocular exotropia in the center and right images.

Come, Come, Ye Saints (churchofjesuschrist.org)

Grice Daguerreotype LOC #1385 proposed to be William Clayton and his wife Ruth, ca 1844. The “eyes” have it again.

Brigham Young from a Ninth Plate Daguerreotype Miniature (65 x 50mm) Captured by Francis Henry Grice, Nauvoo, Illinois, Summer, 1844

The left image from about 1860 of Brigham Young is from the Library of Congress. The image here is cropped, slightly darkened, and flipped horizontally from the LOC image. The image is a copy glass negative of a stereo view from a Daguerreotype from the Brady-Handy photograph collection, Library of Congress, Prints and Photographs Division; Purchase; Alice H. Cox and Mary H. Evans; 1954. Brigham Young | Library of Congress (loc.gov) The right image, proposed to be Brigham Young ca1844, is displayed below with the LOC link.

Orson Pratt, Morman Iconoclast, Through the Eyes of Frederick Piercy and the Lens of Francis Henry Grice

The center image is Orson Pratt from an engraving by Frederick Piercy, ca1855 Orson Pratt – Biography (josephsmithpapers.org); The left image is an engraving also by Piercy, ca1852 Orson Pratt – Biography (josephsmithpapers.org); the right image is from the LOC Grice Collection [Unidentified man, half-length portrait, facing front] | Library of Congress (loc.gov). All the images are cropped, and none have been flipped.

Frederick Piercy, artist and engraver, departed aboard Jersey from Liverpool on February 5, 1853, with a party of about 300 other Mormon immigrants. They were bound for the port of New Orleans, and eventually to Salt Lake City via St. Louis. He accompanied the Miller-Cooley Company to Salt Lake City later in 1853. This journey resulted in the publication of the illustrated travel book, “Route from Liverpool to Great Salt Lake Valley”. The multivolume book was purchased by the Mormon Church, but a dispute over the offering price led to an estrangement between Piercy and both the Church and Pratt.

Frederick Piercy, Route from Liverpool to Great Salt Lake Valley: illustrated with steel engravings and woodcuts from sketches made by Frederick Piercy . . . : together with a geographical and historical description of Utah, and a map of the overland routes to that territory from the Missouri River: also an authentic history of the Latter-Day Saints’ emigration from Europe from the commencement up to the close of 1855, with statistics, ed. James Linforth (Liverpool published by Franklin D. Richards; London: Latter-Day Saints’ Book Depot,
1855).

So, Piercy and Orson Pratt had a troubled relationship, as was the relationship between Pratt and Brigham Young. THE ORSON PRATT-BRIGHAM YOUNG CONTROVERSIES: CONFLICT WITHIN THE QUORUMS, 1853 TO 1868 on JSTOR The dates of the engravings above are taken from the Joseph Smith Papers entry. But a more detailed description of Piercy’s relationship with the Mormans is given by Chatterley (see: https://ensignpeakfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/MHS_Fall2003_Frederick-Piercy.pdf ). Pratt presided over the Mormon Church in Great Britain, 1848–1849, 1856–1857. (England, Breck. The Life and Thought of Orson Pratt. Salt Lake City: University of Utah Press, 1985.) Chatterley gives an 1849 date for the stippled left engraving, meaning it was executed in Great Britain if done from life. The raised left eyebrow (actually right, as the Daguerreotype is a mirrored image) mimics the Grice Daguerreotype, suggesting that both engravings were done from Daguerreotypes. Piercy did many Morman engravings. In 1853, the Church also published an engraving Piercy made that is a composite of portraits of the General Authorities of the Church, based on daguerreotypes made in Salt Lake City. (See Fairbanks, Jonathan, “The Great Platte River Trail in 1853).

Orson Hyde, Member of the First Morman Quorum of Twelve, As Seen (Twice) by Francis Henry Grice

The horizontally flipped left image (1844) is from the Grice Collection in the Library of Congress Daguerreotype #1381: [Unidentified man, half-length portrait, facing front] – color film copy transparency | Library of Congress (loc.gov); The right image (ca 1852) is from Orson Hyde – Biography (josephsmithpapers.org). Both images have been cropped from the sources given. The original left image is half-length and the right full-length (standing). Daguerrean cameras, lens, and plates improved over the approximately 15 years from 1839 to 1855 when it was the only widely used technique.

Distortion in data selection can be purposeful when the practice is deemed “cherry-picking,” or distortion can come from well-meaning but misguided attempts at objectivity. Of the various cognitive forms of bias, apophenia (the human tendency to perceive meaningful patterns within random data) is both the most euphonious and most ubiquitous in both history and medicine. A medical mentor was heard to mutter when a colleague supported his own strong opinion by citing his long experience: “You have repeatedly made the same mistake for 40 years and now dignify it as experience.”[1]


Of the 51 images returned from a search for the word “Grice” in the LOC Daguerreotype Collection, 27 depict an adult male either alone (21) or with a woman(6). This small sample size of 27 presents both some protections from the pitfalls of apophenia and some susceptibilities.

The Grice 27 images seem to have been made with the same technique, probably with the same camera/lens and very similar if not a single “batch” of plates. Lighting was ambient indoors and thus variable depending on weather, time of day, etc. Lenses (originally mirrors) needed to have wide apertures which limited the depth of field that was in focus and introduced distortions.

Fifteen of the 27 images were made on 82 x 70 mm (sixth plate format), silvered copper. However, two images (#1524 & 1382) were 140 x 104 mm (half plate format). Three images were in quarter plate format. Six images were 65 x 50 mm (ninth plate format). The larger plates produced better images.

Bromide vapors were introduced that increased light sensitivity and reduced exposure time. Lenses also improved. So, the task of matching the ~1844 identity of a subject based on images gathered a decade or more later is confounded by differing perspectives/poses, improvements in technique, and the aging of the subjects.

Orson Hyde (1807-1878) was 37 years old in 1844 which seems consistent with his appearance in Daguerreotype #1381. A much heavier Orson Hyde is depicted in the image on the right.

Some will quickly point to the absence of the chin cleft in the gaunt youthful picture. However, Orson had been seriously ill for much of 1839 with “fever and ague” – i.e., malaria, which was endemic in the swamps of Nauvoo. He was emaciated and unable to travel. Howard Barron included a sketch of Hyde dated ca1839 on page 20 of his 1977 biography. He credited Prof. Lamar C. Berrett as the source of the illustrations.

This sketch looks like it could have been drawn from the Grice Daguerreotype, which came to the Library of Congress 22 years after Barron’s book was published. Barron, H. H. Orson Hyde: missionary, apostle, colonizer. Bountiful, Utah, Horizon Publishers, 1977, p20,107.
Orson Hyde’s Grice Daguerreotype (not horizontally flipped)
Marinda Nancy Johnson and Orson Hyde in the Spring or Summer of 1844 from Grice Dag #1354

Thus far in this series identities have been proposed for the following Grice Daguerreotypes:

  1. #1336 Unitarian Minister Augustus Conant and Betsy Kelsey Conant [Unidentified man and woman, seated, facing front] | Library of Congress (loc.gov) https://www.loc.gov/item/2004664531/
  2. #1346 Unitarian Minister Arthur Buckminster Fuller [Unidentified man, three-quarters length portrait] | Library of Congress (loc.gov)
  3. #1352 Second Scribe Oliver Cowdery [Unidentified man with beard, half-length portrait, facing front] | Library of Congress (loc.gov)
  4. #1516 Mormon member of the Quorum of Twelve Charles Coulson Rich [Unidentified man with beard, head-and-shoulders portrait, facing front] | Library of Congress (loc.gov)
  5. #1501 Morman member of the Quorum of Twelve Wilford Woodruff [Unidentified man, half-length portrait, facing front] | Library of Congress (loc.gov)
  6. #1353 First Scribe Martin Harris [Unidentified man, head-and-shoulders portrait, facing slightly right] | Library of Congress (loc.gov)
  7. #1368 Prophet, First President of LDS Joseph Smith, Jr., and Emma Hale Smith [Unidentified man and woman, three-quarters length portrait, seated] | Library of Congress (loc.gov)
  8. #1381 Mormon member First Quorum of Twelve Orson Hyde [Unidentified man, half-length portrait, facing front] | Library of Congress (loc.gov)
  9. #1518 Morman Member First Quorum of Twelve Orson Pratt [Unidentified man, half-length portrait, facing front] | Library of Congress (loc.gov)
  10. #1520 Second President of LDS Brigham Young [Unidentified young man, half-length portrait, facing front] | Library of Congress (loc.gov)

[1] RBN, Jr., M.D., personal communication. The informant based his statement upon Hippocrates’ dictum: “Life is short and Art long; the crisis fleeting; experience perilous, and decision difficult.”

Charles Coulson Rich, A Stalwart Early Mormon in the Grice Collection of Daguerreotypes

The Image on the left is of Charles Coulson Rich from Charles C. Rich 1875 – Charles C. Rich – Wikipedia. The image on the right has been flipped horizontally and is from the Grice Collection at the Library of Congress, [Unidentified man with beard, head-and-shoulders portrait, facing front] | Library of Congress (loc.gov).

Artworks in the Celestial Room of the First Nauvoo Temple on JSTOR This portrait of Rich demonstrates the difficulties in comparing oil paintings to Daguerreotypes. Was the painting made from a Daguerreotype of a beardless Rich or from life? Since Daguerreotypes are “flipped” horizontally and are thus mirrored images and using the side of the hair part as a “constant,” the painting and Daguerreotype are consistent with Major making the painting from a Daguerreotype.

This Dageurreotype of Rich probably was made 1850-1855, based on apparent age and dress. It has not been flipped horizontally. He was “scalped” either by faulty development or subsequent damage. The Grice image is the most flattering. Charles Coulson Rich – Biography (josephsmithpapers.org)

Born in Campbell County, Kentucky, Charles Coulson Rich (1809-1883) with his parents crossed the Ohio River into Dearborn County, Indiana, in 1810. Such migrations were common and often precipitated by the fact that land titles in Kentucky were notoriously fragile and by the fact that Kentucky was a slave state. Charles Coulson Rich – Biography (josephsmithpapers.org) Rich was a schoolteacher, a cooper, and a farmer who became enthralled with the Book of Mormon.

In April 1844 Rich was called to Preside over the 16 missionaries assigned to assist Joseph Smith’s presidential campaign and preach the gospel in Michigan. (History journal of the Church, April 15, 1844, p.2) Thus he, like so many other Nauvoo Mormon leaders, was not home during the fateful spring of 1844. Rich returned to Nauvoo in July 1844. Charles Coulson Rich | Church History Biographical Database (churchofjesuschrist.org)

Charles Rich went on to be an energetic stalwart of the Mormon Church who, among other things, founded the Mormon community in San Bernadino, California.

Not Dr. William Law (1809-1892). More Questions Than Answers…

The Image on the left is from the Maillet Purchase within the Grice Collection in the Library of Congress. [Unidentified older man, half-length portrait, facing front] | Library of Congress (loc.gov) The image on the right is from Doctrine and Covenants Historical Resources: William Law (churchofjesuschrist.org)

William Law was a merchant, a miller, and a physician who came to Nauvoo as part of the Toronto contingent after a missionary visit to Canada by John Tayor. Law was born in County Tyrone, Ireland, and came to America with his parents when only nine years old, settling in Pennsylvania. He practiced medicine for about sixty years, forty-five years of which were spent on his farm near Apple River (Illinois) and in nearby Shullsburg Wisconsin.

Law served as a counselor in First Presidency, 1841–1844, in Nauvoo. He was appointed aide-de-camp to the lieutenant general in the Nauvoo Legion in March 1841. Law, like Lucian Foster and Francis Grice, was a Mason, a member of the Nauvoo Masonic Lodge. Law could not abide Smith’s polygamy doctrine that was becoming more open. He was excommunicated from the Church on 18 Apr. 1844, in Nauvoo. This date coincides closely with the arrival in Nauvoo of Lucian Foster and Francis Grice.

Wiliam Law and his brother Wilson and a few other dissenters bought a printing press and issued the first edition of the Nauvoo Expositor on 7 June 1844. In it, William published an affidavit:

The first edition of the Expositor was also the last. An angry Nauvoo mob of Mormons rioted and destroyed the building and the printing press after they tossed the type into the street. This unleashed a storm of violence in Hancock County that ended with the murders of Joseph and Hiram Smith. They were officially under the protection of the State of Illinois, but a mob of non-Mormons killed the Smith brothers in the jail in Carthage.

Palmer, Grant H. “Why William and Jane Law Left the LDS Church in 1844.” The John Whitmer Historical Association Journal 32, no. 2 (2012): 43–51. http://www.jstor.org/stable/43201313.

If the man depicted in the Grice Daguerreotype is William Law (and the hairlines, furrowed brows, facial shapes, whiskers, and eyebrows seem to match when comparing the Grice and the “Doctrines” images), the Grice image cannot be from the early 1840s. Law was only 35 years old in 1844.

None of the Library of Congress descriptions of the Daguerreotypes that bear the debossed “F. Grice” in the left lower corner of the brass surround contain provenance beyond naming the persons (Barboza or Maillet) from whom they were purchased. This is a huge obstacle to those seeking to identify subjects. And the debossed name on the brass surround does not necessarily identify the individual who opened the shutter of the Dageurrean camera for 2-3 minutes. On the other hand, a provenance assembled retrospectively based on oral traditions is only as strong as its weakest link.

This is an example where too many pieces of circumstantial evidence do not fit in the William Law puzzle. The debossed “F. Grice” is unmistakable in the brass surround. The left image looks like a daguerreotype, but the right image does not. After about 1855 Daguerreotypes gave way to tintypes and albumin prints. Trying to match images to the accurate identities of their subjects is not a scientific process, though often those who make the attempt fall into Lord Kelvin’s famous dictum: When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it.” — William Thomson Kelvin. The informal “Curse of Kelvin” holds: “If you cannot measure it, measure it anyway.” Precision does not guarantee accuracy.

The older gentleman depicted in the left image above is not Dr. William Law in the early 1840’s.